2018 New Rods


(Rob) #21

Good night!!


(Jeff Roberts) #22

(Jeff Roberts) #23

First bit of actual info I have found about new Shimano Maystone NW. There is also a short video clip on their website with the rod listing from a recent fishing show. Thought I would share. Personally I like the look.


(Tom Davis) #24

I’ve got one coming in about a month or so, when they are released. It will be my first rod that does not have lilian. I’ll be curious to see how it fishes compared to rods that do have one.


(David Walker) #25

Interesting that this rod doesn’t use a lillian, instead using the type of tip used on other types of rods. A year or so back some guy on TUSA forum, had something against lillians, I think he had several of them wear out and had to replace the lillian (something I have never had to do), and wanted to use use the other type, and was trying to figure out what to order.

And he wondered why tenkara rods do not use the other type. I played around with researching it a little bit, enough to track down the names of the different types of tips. Even submitted a question to the Oni blog asking why tenkara rods do not use the other type of tips, but never received a reply.

Shimano is calling it 回転「超感」トップ [ Kaiten `chō-kan’ toppu, Rotation “super-sensitive” top. Maybe it will be. What is NW, new-wave?


(Tom Davis) #26

I will be interested to see if not having the Lillian will make the rod even more sensitive. Many people claim that cork or foam handles reduces the sensitivity of feeling the fly. I would think the Lillian would also reduce the sensitivity. Personally, I don’t rely on the feel of the take for my own fishing, I’m much more of the sight fisherman and follow the movement of the line. Anyway I’m excited to see if I can detect any particular difference in casting in this rod without a Lillian. I’m particularly interested in seeing how it will cast a number 2.5 flourocarbon or a number 3 nylon line.


(Peder) #27

Please let us know or at least let us know if/when you do a blog update about it.


(David Walker) #28

TUSA Hane rod, 330cm / 10ft 10in extended, 38cm/ 15in. closed. 12 segments, 100g/3.5 oz.

TenkaraUSA 3.3m Hane rod


(David Walker) #30

Les Albjerg’s initial review of the Tenryu Tenkara Furaibo TF 39 Becchō
[ 天龍テンカラ 風来坊 TF39別誂 竿]

http://www.tenkarabum.com/the-wait-is-over.html

Les writes Chris had told him fewer people than expected ordered the Becchō rod. Maybe that explains why Plat has them listed with 10% discount off the list price.
This is the video from Plat website

Tom Davis / Teton Tenkara Part 1 review of the Shimano Maystone 36 NW

http://tetontenkara.blogspot.com/2018/03/shimano-maystone-36-nw-review-part-i.html


(Chris Stewart) #31

David, Les said that fewer people had bought the Tenryu Furaibo TF39 Becchou than HE had expected. He has an artist’s appreciation for beauty and design, and is interested in Japanese cultural treasures. He thought I would have sold 50 of them. I saw the 87000 yen price tag and thought I might sell 1 or 2.

I am sure PLAT listing them for a discount had no impact on sales in the US because all the rods sold here were pre-ordered before anyone knew PLAT would carry them. I do not know how many were sold in Japan. I didn’t ask and Tenryu didn’t say.


(Michael Agneta) #32

I’m late to this post, but I’m sort of in the camp where I’m going to stop buying rods for a little bit. I own more than my share at the moment and would like to better tune in my “game” with each. Probably need to offload a few. That said, it doesn’t mean I’m not following along with interest on all the new models.

Full disclosure: I do have a rod on backorder with Badger Tenkara. I had pre-ordered their new “Rocky Creek Special” just to see what their interpretation of a relatively inexpensive “full flex” rod was like. Would like to see more of those in the US marketplace if it fishes well.


(David Walker) #33

Not sure if this rod is new or if I’m just now discovering it. Saw it mentioned in a blog post dated March 24, 2018.
鬼ショップから『石徹白』と言う名のテンカラ竿が リリースされました。
From Oni shop tenkara rod named [Itoshiro] has been released.

The name in the Oni shop is
鬼竿 石徹白 花・梨 全長3.4m
Oni sao Itoshiro Pear Flower total length 3.4m
Seems to be basically an Oni 3 rod with wood grip, though there maybe other differences.
Condition 7: 3
Dimensions 60.5 cm
Weight 115 g
7 segments

It is a broadleaf tree of leguminous family, which grows mainly in Southeast Asia.
It is a rare species, which is also used as a substitute for wood of red sandalwood.
It has very beautiful surface of wood skin and you can see beautiful gloss.
Due to the high density per volume, it is very hard and strong.
In reddish wood, …

p-kn.com/community/blog Oni Itoshiro tenkara rod released

https://oni-ten.onlinestores.jp/category/select/pid/8929/language/ja


(Peder) #34

I don’t think those are significantly new. I saw them first advertised just before Christmas as a special item for gifts. They were originally offered with give different types of wood handle and all using the Oni 3 rod blank. They were advertised then as a collaboration between him and a friend who was making the handles. Don’t know the price now (because I haven’t looked) but they were roughly $375 - $500 depending on which wood you chose when I last saw them.


(Adam Trahan) #35

http://www.tenkarausa.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/207?osCsid=117c50f76440b2480c480b51888aff1a

I’m digging the production Hane.

That Furaibo looks sexy but I don’t deserve it and I’m working class.


(Michael Agneta) #36

Totally random question @Adam_Trahan… How would you compare the new Hane to the Sakura Kongo? Obviously different pricepoints, etc… but both really compact when collapsed, think both around 14 or 15". Was the first rod that came to mind when I saw the Hane once I got past the white paint job. I know my Kongo prefers heavier lines (which I’ve also heard/read about the Hane). Figured you’d probably be able to describe the differences better than most.


(David Walker) #37

It’s a rod model that is being introduced 9 years after the start of TUSA, the last milestone listed on their interactive time line. A lot of changes from first company outside Japan, first English language tenkara video, etc. not just for TUSA, but for everyone involved with tenkara.

http://www.tenkarausa.com/9th-anniversary-tenkara-usa/


(Adam Trahan) #38

Sakura is a rod brand (an old rod shop in Tokyo) that has supported tenkara in Japan since the beginning. A brand that supported the old tenkara experts there. The Kongo is one of the two models of tenkara rods available from Sakura. It’s short when it’s nested, it has more joints (many sections) and has a stiffer, faster flex profile due to it’s design. It’s a expensive rod that has been made better with lighter materials and experience. It’s the newest version of an old design.

The Hane is from the oldest Tenkara company in America, Tenkara USA. A brand that continues to support tenkara anglers here and around the world, new and experienced. The Hane is one of many models that are available. It is a rod that was one of the first offerings from the company and has been upgraded with knowledge and made available for the masses through it’s affordable price. The Hane has a short pack length which by design makes it a faster flex profile.

The Hane and the Kongo are similar in that they are both short nesting tenkara rods. The Hane is relatively affordable where as the Kongo is twice the price of the Hane.

I really like both of these rods but they are very different while they also share obvious common themes.

I’m really proud of Daniel for continuing on with the Hane and developing it. The rod is a wonderful idea.

What ever rod I am using, that’s the “one rod” in my hand, I’m making it work for what ever I’m doing. The profile of it creates a accurate cast. I’ve seen my son catch VERY large fish on it and I’ve caught small trout on it too.

It’s quite a versatile rod.

Michael, I think I helped you get your Kongo in what, 2010? I helped a lot of tenkara anglers outside of Japan, early on in the timeline get a Sakura Kongo (and the Seki Rei) The profile of the Kongo and the Hane is a purposeful design. It’s an old design and it is a Japanese profile.

While I hear a lot of static for “full flexing rods” which I also enjoy, I have a place in my tenkara for this type of rod and it isn’t a small place, it’s a big place, like travel, like always in my bag. It’s an attribute to my fishing, I’ll use the Hane this summer to catch rainbow trout in Kauai. I’ll carry it with me every time I board a plane, it’s in the cabin with me.

The differences are profound. Each rod was designed with tenkara in mind, one in Japan, the other in America. Both rods are unique in that they were designed by people on opposite sides of the globe yet both are designed for the same thing. Both companies have been supporting tenkara anglers since the beginning and the rod configuration is old and has been interpreted by the designers in their own experiences.

I’m proud to be associated with both companies that have created this type of rod of which I am a fan of. It was quite a surprise to me to see this newest version (Tenkara USA) come to market in much more than a limited release and quite affordable too.


(Gressak) #39

I am not in the market, but do you have any specs beyond the data sheet on the site.

penny ratings or what rod is comparable in its feel and flex profile.

I do like the TUSA rhodo and sato. I have many other rods from other brands, but prefer the rhodo and sato because they are extremely robust. Would you consider the Hane to be as robust as those models?


(Adam Trahan) #40

The spec are in the link I posted.

I’m not worried that the rod will break, I only carry one on (plane) trips and I don’t carry spare parts.


(Gressak) #41

@Adam_Trahan

I was asking for more data.