This has good reviews for an UL option. Cheap and weighs 25g. edit by UL I mean boiling water in very small pots, definitely under a liter.
That BRS is the darling of r/ultralight over on Reddit.
However, there’s just as many reports of it failing under real use as there are people praising it. Major case of you get what you pay for.
I gave my son the SOTO and bought the Giga Power.
It works well.
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I’m probably going to wind up getting a butane cartridge Soto, since those can/cartridges are so damn readily available in Korea and Japan and that’s where I’ll be at least the next 4 years.
This is the one I most want. I like how low the stove is to the ground, more stability with a heavy pot or pan.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B077Q99XBS/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B077Q99XBS&pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_p=4227b51a-caef-4371-98ae-1a3e0fefe4f2&pf_rd_r=DB73W71TFWNXKC3Y4NPF&pd_rd_wg=VDImF&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=KQbfo&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=ae25462b-a405-11e8-8a4b-c3a88bb3548b
Speaking of pans, I am totally gonna get this backpacking “teppan” plate. What better way to do a backcountry steak?!
https://www.amazon.co.jp/SOTO-レギュレーターストーブ-対応-グリルプレート（遮熱板付き）-板厚4-5mm-（バーナー本体・カセットボンベは商品に含まれません）/dp/B00Q1DUYDI?pd_rd_wg=jvwzF&pd_rd_r=7485dc1c-bf8e-46d7-9f02-2827aa6e5c60&pd_rd_w=RJXej&ref_=pd_gw_wish&pf_rd_r=AGW8P3MBRNTAXK79MJ9C&pf_rd_p=0f633de3-8115-5ac6-a2d3-1d71a9448bf6
And I also found a Japanese market trench grill:
Basically the Japanese camp kitchen scene is so awesome
In the past I have built many alcohol stoves and tested them extensively. Here is a post on the best stove I have built to date, and the entire cooking and eating kit to go with it, as well as material sources and burner fabrication measurements. https://www.tenkarausa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6590
Perfect timing for this post!
My middle kid has to build an alcohol stove for his grade 7 outdoor education class. I was going to start searching for instructions. I built a bunch of stoves about 15 years ago, that we’re great. I think I still have them.
Glad this came up!
I use an Emberlit titanium FireAnt most of the time. I love that it packs flat. When I don’t want to built a fire (or can’t due to drought restrictions) I use a Trangia spirit burner stove or a SoLite UltraLite alcohol stove. I’ve also got a MSR pocket rocket, but I haven’t used it for a few years. I have a couple homemade alcohol stoves (made from aluminum energy drink cans). They are very light but not very durable.
https://recreationoutlet.com/solite-alcohol-ultralight-stove
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Still using my Snow Peak Giga Power.
Works fast.
Stove and cook pots go together like peas and carrots.
I use a MSR kettle, I added silicone tubing on the handles for insulation because I am impatient when it comes to coffee and eating.
I have a Cuban Fiber drawstring bag it all goes in.
My stove system is small and reliable.
If you don’t have a stove, I make a fire like Sebata san. Look that up if you value this sort of thing.
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I’m a soda can stove junkie. I made a dozen and gave some to friends too. That and my titanium cup and I’m good to go for a weekend. I also carry a titanium fire ant as backup. For week long trips or with a friend, then I’ll break out the jetboil since we can split the weight.
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I just got a JetBoil Zip because I’m tired of eating junk when I’m out. I got one of the freeze dried entrees to try, and it was surprisingly very good.
Hot meals, ramen, oatmeal and pour over coffee. I can’t wait.
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For years I’ve used DIY beer can, and Solo (Trangia knockoff) alcohol stoves, along with the Solo gasifyer stove that can act as a windscreen for the Solo alcohol stove and is usually legal for a wood fire (if gathering twigs and forest duff is allowed) when fires are banned because (what little is left of) the hot ashes are fully contained in the stove. Despite the cost I use 180 proof grain alcohol because it’s not toxic like methanol so I am not apprehensive about nesting my stove in my cooking kit, it burns very clean, and can be used as a first aid disinfectant. And no I don’t drink it.
After some analysis I recently got a Soto Windmaster canister stove because when factoring in fuel efficiency, fuel cost, and weight, cannister stoves have an edge over alcohol even when packing out empty canisters is considered. The Windmaster gets excellent reviews for its BTU output, resistance to wind, simmering ability, a troublefree igniter, and packed size.
For car camping I got a Gas ONE GS-4000P dual fuel stove. It puts out 12K BTUs, has excellent simmer control, and can use Propane that is always available at Mom & Pop stores in the boonies or Butane. Butane cartridges can last me from 4-5 one pot meals for two people.
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I was thinking of buying Everclear as a non toxic fuel for my alcohol stove, but I’m a bit worried about cost tough. Aside from being non toxic, have you experienced any other tangible benefits from using grain alcohol?
Yes, Everclear (ethanol) is expensive. Even though I say it’s “not toxic” drinking Everclear abuse can rapidly lead to alcohol poisoning (overdose). I mentioned it’s also a disinfectant for first aid, but so is isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. Some folks use isopropyl alcohol for stoves but isopropyl alcohol is more toxic than ethanol when ingested. However both isopropyl alcohol and ethanol are less toxic than methanol, which is extremely toxic to humans if ingested, even when just the vapors are inhaled or absorbed through the skin.
Getting back to your “tangible” question ethanol burns hotter and cleaner than methanol or isopropyl, so less fuel (weight & volume) is required for cooking.
In summary I use methanol as a shop solvent, isopropyl as a disinfectant and cleaning agent, but use ethanol for camp cooking for all the reasons stated. Cost can be a reason to do otherwise. Costco had the lowest price.
Rubbing alcohol contains water, and therefore, is not good for stove fuel use…Karl.
After doing some research, I’ve settled on using denatured alcohol. I use it to clean ferrules on my bamboo rods already and its easy to obtain.